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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 12:11 Post title : Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster | | | Link
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 12:42 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: Hornet) | | | well, it doesnt look that exciting really a bit hard to beat the T120 Bonnie, I suppose.
hopefully we will get to see them in the flesh real soon
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 18:17 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: hairdoo) | | | Is that the 1200 motor? If so, it will make a lot more ex-T-Bird riders as we find it harder to manage the Bird's weight.
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 18:38 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: VABird) | | |
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Is that the 1200 motor? If so, it will make a lot more ex-T-Bird riders as we find it harder to manage the Bird's weight. |
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I'm fairly sure it's the 1200,
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| | | daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 18:38 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster | | | Well, there ya go....when we saw the mule pics i said it looks like they just put a different seat and bars on the bobber and if this is the result then thats all it is ! Tho the bars are even more normal than the mule;s apes. More forward pegs but still....forward pegs does not make a cruiser and it is NOT a cruiser. What it appears they did was decide to basically do what they did in the 50's and just make the thunderbird a variant of the bonneville.
So we got another speedmaster, but only in name. We lost the cruiser line. It appears that after about 14 years of cruisers including the speeday/america, R3, and the Tbird, they finally realized triumph cruisers are a losing battle. So now we know the only cruiser left is the R3 and rumors go both ways on that. But if it goes triumph has definately realized they will never sell cruisers in any notable numbers no matter how good they are. Sucks. On th bright side, i was actually digging the bobber except for that seat and low gearing. (the latter according to a dealer) So assuming this has normal gearing i may actually be interested at some point. (but not super enthusiastically like i would for a actual speedmaster cruiser, and NOT unless they have a cast wheel version) but it's NOT a cruiser aside from the minimally forward pegs.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 18:44 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: daz) | | | Hmmmm...also looks like the old air cooled 865 america and speedmaster are in the 2018 lineup still, at least in the UK.
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 19:44 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: daz) | | |
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Hmmmm...also looks like the old air cooled 865 america and speedmaster are in the 2018 lineup still, at least in the UK. |
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I'm sure their website has not been updated, they are notorious for having incorrect information on their various sites
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 20:41 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: Hornet) | | | i dunno....in the address bar it said 2018 speedmaster. i imagine they're gong to keep selling the 865's at least till they run out.
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Hmmmm...also looks like the old air cooled 865 america and speedmaster are in the 2018 lineup still, at least in the UK. |
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I'm sure their website has not been updated, they are notorious for having incorrect information on their various sites
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 21:24 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: daz) | | | Yeah definitely a shame about the cruiser line, & I think your correct in saying it really doesn't matter how good the bikes are & they are good they just will never sell in the quantities they need to. Having said that I also believe Triumphs marketing leaves a lot to be desired, no where near the clever marketing Harley does for example.
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| | Posted : 28 Aug 2017 - 23:38 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: daz) | | | daz wrote:
Well, there ya go....when we saw the mule pics i said it looks like they just put a different seat and bars on the bobber and if this is the result then thats all it is ! Tho the bars are even more normal than the mule;s apes. More forward pegs but still....forward pegs does not make a cruiser and it is NOT a cruiser. What it appears they did was decide to basically do what they did in the 50's and just make the thunderbird a variant of the bonneville.
So we got another speedmaster, but only in name. We lost the cruiser line. It appears that after about 14 years of cruisers including the speeday/america, R3, and the Tbird, they finally realized triumph cruisers are a losing battle. So now we know the only cruiser left is the R3 and rumors go both ways on that. But if it goes triumph has definately realized they will never sell cruisers in any notable numbers no matter how good they are. Sucks. On th bright side, i was actually digging the bobber except for that seat and low gearing. (the latter according to a dealer) So assuming this has normal gearing i may actually be interested at some point. (but not super enthusiastically like i would for a actual speedmaster cruiser, and NOT unless they have a cast wheel version) but it's NOT a cruiser aside from the minimally forward pegs. |
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Dave what makes you say it's not a Cruiser? It might not be a power cruiser like ours but it is based on the Bobber which to me is a cruiser. Just because the engine is smaller if you want to call 1200cc small doesn't mean it is not a cruiser. Look at the success, especially at the beginning of their run, of the original TBA and SM. They were 790 cc and they were cruisers. When I met the regional sales rep. for Triumph at the Bobber introduction, he said they were getting away from the "Big" American cruiser style not cruisers all together. IMO the Cruiser lives on at Triumph just not in Supersize.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 00:01 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: PES) | | | It think you were replying to me, not Dave. But it's not a cruiser at all aside from the more forward pegs. The lines are that of a bonnie, rake isn't there like the cruisers, seat looks to be as high as a bonnie, it's obviously light and isnb;t going to eat miles at high speed like on rails as both my Tbird and speedmaster did due to thier weight and rake and low profile. Cruisers are heavier, longer due to the rake, with low seats. This thing is a bonnie. The bobber is just a bonnie with a mono shock and bobber seat and this thing has had what makes a bobber removed in favor of a regular seat. Basically what you have is a bonneville with forward pegs. I fail to see how that is anything remotely similar to any cruiser triumph or anyone else makes. I hate to say it, but my Tbird was mistaken for the quintessential cruiser of all time, the harley. Because thats what a cruiser is and all cruisers i have evr seen use the same recipe. This bike isn't even in the ballpark. Don't hold your breath waiting for someone to mistake this thing for a HD ! If it didn't say speedmaster on the side i'd have just thought it was a new slightly different version of the bonneville.
If you choose to ignore those common cruiser traits almost all of which are not included in this bike, then theres no debate at all because the word cruiser then no longer means a particular type of bike and the debate is moot. ducati called the diavel a cruiser, yet it's basically a sport bike with a low seat. They included it in the cruise shootout in cycle mag in about '11 or there abouts and even the testers said it shouldn't be in the shootout. But ducati *chose* to call it a cruiser so it was included just because of that. Whats next? A R3 dirt bike?
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 02:04 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: daz) | | | daz wrote:
It think you were replying to me, not Dave. But it's not a cruiser at all aside from the more forward pegs. The lines are that of a bonnie, rake isn't there like the cruisers, seat looks to be as high as a bonnie, it's obviously light and isnb;t going to eat miles at high speed like on rails as both my Tbird and speedmaster did due to thier weight and rake and low profile. Cruisers are heavier, longer due to the rake, with low seats. This thing is a bonnie. The bobber is just a bonnie with a mono shock and bobber seat and this thing has had what makes a bobber removed in favor of a regular seat. Basically what you have is a bonneville with forward pegs. I fail to see how that is anything remotely similar to any cruiser triumph or anyone else makes. I hate to say it, but my Tbird was mistaken for the quintessential cruiser of all time, the harley. Because thats what a cruiser is and all cruisers i have evr seen use the same recipe. This bike isn't even in the ballpark. Don't hold your breath waiting for someone to mistake this thing for a HD ! If it didn't say speedmaster on the side i'd have just thought it was a new study different version of the bonneville.
If you choose to ignore those common cruiser traits almost all of which are not included in this bike, then theres no debate at all because the word cruiser then no longer means a particular type of bike and the debate is moot. ducati called the diavel a cruiser, yet it's basically a sport bike with a low seat. They included it in the cruise shootout in cycle mag in about '11 or there abouts and even the testers said it shouldn't be in the shootout. But ducati *chose* to call it a cruiser so it was included just because of that. Whats next? A R3 dirt bike? |
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But how can you say a Bobber is not a cruiser? That fake hardtail is right from the Harley cookbook. Bobbers have been around a long time and w no passenger seat and no bags what category would you put it in? They started out as a stock something no passenger seat and luggage space about all you can do w it is cruise. Did you bother to read my wiki definition of cruiser? 60 years ago cruisers were around but they were choppers and customs. And the SM and original TBA were not heavy bikes. They go about 500lbs. So heaviness is not necessarily a trait of a cruiser. Sounds like you are defining cruisers according to your TBird which is a heavy cruiser. Me and Triumph both agree the Bobber and the New Speedmaster are cruisers. The Bobber has broken sales records at Triumph and I am thinking a lot of those people who bought one would agree w me. There is someone here that bought One. I'd be curious to hear his opinion.
Ps: sorry Dave.
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| | | daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 02:49 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: PES) | | | "Bobber" is the name of a certain type of bike. "Cruiser" is the name of another type of bike. The better questions on is why do you consider a bobber a cruiser or visa versa? And to make matters worse, the thing is much closer to a bonneville than a bobber because the main thing that makes a bobber a bobber is the seat and rear fender look, which is not there art all. So i guess a bonneville is a cruiser?
Why do we have these names if they're all the same? Like i said above, if you're going to call a bobber a cruiser or a sport bike a dirt bike or etc etc etc, then it becomes your personal decision as to what they should be called and theres no longer a debate because you've decided the features each has that make them different are not important to the particular type and are all interchangeable. Why do they even have names if a cruiser is a bobber and a bobber is a cruiser and both are standards like a bonneville? You can call it whatever you want, but when a bike like this one resembles no cruiser i've ever seen except for the forward pegs then theres no sense in even designating any bike to a particular style or use. You can believe what you want, but look at that thing....it's a bonneville and if you can't see that i dunno what to tell you.
Oh, and the speedy was 100 Lbs more then the bonnie, not exactly insignificant for a bike in that weight range and with the same engine !
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 02:51 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: PES) | | | Thruth lies in fact, if you have ancient criteria you have a point out to persaude about what makes this or that then you occupy your head with useless info. I have noticed a lot of triumphs on the
Road these days, good for triumph, and we don't know the future, buy a bike you like and start a *bicker* thread
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 03:52 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: rayglo) | | | Bike appears small for long distance cruising imo. I rode an '03 TBA to Sturgis but the lightweight ride after 400 miles caused noticeable fatigue.
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 10:42 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: AZCactus) | | | I'll wait until I can plant my butt on the bike and take it for a spin before I start judging it. My dealer likes me to test their new bikes.
I road one of the first Street Twins and Bobber's in the states. Hopefully they'll extend the same opportunity for this new bike as well.
I'm very interested to see the bike. Let's face it a lot of guys have been clamoring for a 1200 America / Speedmaster for years.
Well it's here, let's see what it is before we tear it down. Triumph has released some fine bikes in the last two years, hopefully this is another one.
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 14:52 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: Hornet) | | | For the record, i'm not judging it. I'm just saying what it is. I even said i could potentially be interested in it, but not as a cruiser because it's not a cruiser. Thats not judging, thats describing.
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 15:13 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: Hornet) | | | Hornet wrote:
...Let's face it a lot of guys have been clamoring for a 1200 America / Speedmaster for years.
Well it's here, let's see what it is before we tear it down.... |
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Well I have no personal interest in the bike...my Thunderbird is irreplaceable. And I do wish this Bonnie version much success but if it's chain drive, that's a drawback imo.
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 17:50 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: AZCactus) | | |
AZCactus wrote:
Hornet wrote:
...Let's face it a lot of guys have been clamoring for a 1200 America / Speedmaster for years.
Well it's here, let's see what it is before we tear it down.... |
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Well I have no personal interest in the bike...my Thunderbird is irreplaceable. And I do wish this Bonnie version much success but if it's chain drive, that's a drawback imo.
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I agree with you. I really don't want a chain driven bike again the belts have spoiled me. My Commander is also the best touring bike I have ever owned. Plus I don't need 2 cruisers in the garage. If I got a second bike it would probably a Scrambler of some sort.
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 18:59 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: PES) | | | PES wrote:
AZCactus wrote:
Hornet wrote:
...Let's face it a lot of guys have been clamoring for a 1200 America / Speedmaster for years.
Well it's here, let's see what it is before we tear it down.... |
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Well I have no personal interest in the bike...my Thunderbird is irreplaceable. And I do wish this Bonnie version much success but if it's chain drive, that's a drawback imo.
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...I really don't want a chain driven bike again the belts have spoiled me. My Commander is also the best touring bike I have ever owned. Plus I don't need 2 cruisers in the garage. If I got a second bike it would probably a Scrambler of some sort. |
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+1 !
And daz mentioned the definition of a cruiser. I'll go out on a limb and say modern day cruisers aren't chain driven. Can you name one...I can't. Think about it...Harley, Indian, ole Victory and Japanese manufacturers use belt, some shaft for their big bikes.
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 19:06 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: AZCactus) | | | Again you are talking about "big cruisers". What do you think Harley used before the belt? A Cruiser isn't defined by the final drive. And are you saying that the original TBA and SM were not cruisers because they had chain drives? Come on man...
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 19:36 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: PES) | | | just saying that I don't know of a modern day big cruiser that's chain driven...so perhaps a new definition of "cruiser". Anyway, I thought of the TBA as a wannabe. It couldn't keep up with hogs on the road, then came the Thunderbird 
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 19:50 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: AZCactus) | | |
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just saying that I don't know of a modern day big cruiser that's chain driven...so perhaps a new definition of "cruiser". Anyway, I thought of the TBA as a wannabe. It couldn't keep up with hogs on the road, then came the Thunderbird |
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Now that is a good chuckle. Maybe your TBA struggled to keep up with the heard but it never has been and still is not an issue for the various TBA's and Speedys I've owned over the years. I normally walked off and left the heard.
Admittedly I never owned the 865 cc, maybe that's what you're referring to
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 21:18 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: Hornet) | | | 790 cc. And it was called a cruiser back in the day 
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 21:23 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: AZCactus) | | | yes indeed the 790cc carburetor motor was the pick of the motors.
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 21:51 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: Hornet) | | |
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I'll wait until I can plant my butt on the bike and take it for a spin before I start judging it. My dealer likes me to test their new bikes.
I road one of the first Street Twins and Bobber's in the states. Hopefully they'll extend the same opportunity for this new bike as well.
I'm very interested to see the bike. Let's face it a lot of guys have been clamoring for a 1200 America / Speedmaster for years.
Well it's here, let's see what it is before we tear it down. Triumph has released some fine bikes in the last two years, hopefully this is another one. |
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 21:55 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: AZCactus) | | |
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just saying that I don't know of a modern day big cruiser that's chain driven...so perhaps a new definition of "cruiser". Anyway, I thought of the TBA as a wannabe. It couldn't keep up with hogs on the road, then came the Thunderbird |
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My good mate Tich had an 865 Speedie for a couple of years and never had trouble keeping up with Tbirds on our flocking rides, more often than not he was up the front, especially through the twisties. He did replace it with a Bird but only because he felt like he was wearing out the engine.
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| | Posted : 29 Aug 2017 - 22:27 Post title : Re: Look what I found, 2018 Speedmaster (Re: Leethal) | | | Maybe the tank or no visible rear shocks, It's not what I was hoping for . Looks like a Bonnie variant and not what the wife would interested in.
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